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Poster: bradm Date: Apr 18, 2008 5:23am
Forum: etree Subject: Vanished artist: Dan Griffin and The Regrets

A couple of weeks ago, a musician I know OKd several artists for the LMA, but one of them seems to have vanished: Dan Griffin and The Regrets. I uploaded one show by him/them, and it was working fine (it had around 200 downloads, IIRC), but when I now go to

http://www.archive.org/details/dangriffin2008-04-12.oktava.shnf

I get a "The item is not available due to issues with the item's content." error. Even weirder, when I go to

http://www.archive.org/details/DanGriffinandTheRegrets

I get the same error. There's no entry in

http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-band-showall.php

for Griffin, and there's also no entry in the "Most Recent Band Activations" list

http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=mediatype%3Acollection%20collection%3Aetree&;sort=-%2Fmetadata%2Faddeddate

But funnily enough, Jawbone

http://www.archive.org/details/Jawbone

which was added by the same musician in the same batch at the same time, is listed the "Most Recent Band Activations" list (go to page 2 of it), and I clearly remember Griffin being either right above or below the Jawbone entry in that list. Maybe Griffin got unintentionally deleted from the LMA artist database in the last couple of days?

I've reported both the show and artist page errors through the error listing, but haven't received e-mail confirmation, so I'm reporting it here. Help!

Thanks,
Brad

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Staffgreenone Date: Apr 18, 2008 7:19am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Vanished artist: Dan Griffin and The Regrets

I believe we just received a request to have this band removed, so we took them down.

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Poster: The Good Rev. Overdrive Date: Apr 18, 2008 8:48am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Vanished artist: Dan Griffin and The Regrets

I'm in this band and I didn't send a request to that effect.

Dan left me a message last night asking if I knew why the show had been taken down, so it wouldn't have been him. I'm also seeing the 'trouble with content' message but earlier I was seeing something about metadata.

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Poster: The Good Rev. Overdrive Date: Apr 18, 2008 9:24am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Vanished artist: Dan Griffin and The Regrets

Just spoke to Dan and he confirmed that he did not ask for us or the show to be removed from the Archive. Is there any way for it to be magically returned or would it need to be reuploaded?

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffTyler Date: Apr 18, 2008 10:38am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Vanished artist: Dan Griffin and The Regrets

On March 11, I received this e-mail which I used to set up the section:

"Hello,

I play pedal steel in the band Dan Griffin and The Regrets. I'd hereby like to give permission for our shows to be archived at Archive.org. Our website is http://www.myspace.com/dangriffinmusic

Thanks kindly,
Aaron Goldstein"

On April 7th, I received this e-mail:

"Hello,

I play keyboards with Dan Griffin and the Regrets, who were recently requested and granted permission to be posted under the Live Music Archive. Our band website is www.myspace.com/dangriffinmusic. I would like to request the removal of our band from your archives. No shows are posted in our folder.

Sincerely
Adam Melnick"

so I removed the one show in the band section and darkened the band section.

http://www.archive.org/details/DanGriffinandTheRegrets

Not sure what instrument Dan plays, but maybe it's all a mis-communication from Adam's e-mail? I'll 'undo' the removal, and both the one show and the band section with all it's content should show up / be back soon.

Sorry for the trouble!

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffTyler Date: Apr 18, 2008 12:42pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Vanished artist: Dan Griffin and The Regrets

We have cleared up the confusion.

The band wants to stay and has been set back up to it's original state. The issue should now be resolved.

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Poster: cousinkix1953 Date: Apr 19, 2008 9:54pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Vanished artist: Dan Griffin and The Regrets

Here we go again... One band member tells somebody they can upload his music. somebody else demands that it be pulled from this archive. Sounds familiar, doesn't it.

I'm reminded again of that Grateful Dead incident and the public relations melt down that followed the war between the boys.

Weir, Hart, Keutzmann, Koons vs. Lesh, Barlow, Hunter...

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffDiana Hamilton Date: Apr 18, 2008 10:45am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Vanished artist: Dan Griffin and The Regrets

Keyboardist Adam M. reportedly sent a removal request. If a rep can crosscheck between band members and send a consensus decision to the contact address etree AT this domain, that will straighten things up for the volunteer staff here. Thanks!

Reupload would not be necessary, since a simple reinstatement is possible.

EDIT- Double barrel response, Tyler's on the case! :)


This post was modified by Diana Hamilton on 2008-04-18 17:45:52